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Post  itai Fri May 06, 2011 10:18 pm

I don't know if those were discussed so if they were tell me

1) Chakra limiter - Lets say you travel in the woods and a genin decides to attack you, surely you can kick his ass but your jutsus cost a lot of chakra and you want to preserve them for a real chalenge so that's why I came up with chakra limiter which is something you can alter before/during/after a battle which will determine how much chakra you wwant to waste on your next jutsu thus making it stronger/weaker.

example: Katon Goukakyuu no Jutsu (translated to Grand Fireball technique) will do a minimum of 100 damage and will cost lets say 100 chakra for genins lets say and if they use thier maximum chakra for example it will do like 500. (if it's unclear let me know)

2) this one has been discussed but I think I should bring it up again. the ability to master all Nature elements instead of a certain one thus people won't just abuse a certain one. people will be able to choose to master all or focus on a specific one every level you gain you can put points into learning those skills putting more points in them will make them stronger but you'll only gain a certain amount of points that you won't be able to get back so if you lets say get 10 points each level you can put all of them in fire or spread them between all elements but there will be a limit to how much points you can put every level so peple that spread the points won't be weaker than people who master only one element.
this idea needs to be worked on and changed a bit but IMO it's a good idea.

3) I suggested this in a diffrent section but I want to make it official
I think you guys should make a "Puppet Shop" where every puppeteer can design his own puppet and the shop will also sell weapons for the puppet and with every level you gain you can buy more weapons and better ones

4) Double rainbow all the way
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Post  Eddiemeister Fri May 06, 2011 10:33 pm

I like the puppet thingy, didin't bother to read the 2nd thing.

But in Naruto, it's not as if you're thinking "Okay, now I gotta do a weaker jutsu to save chakra". You just focus on killing him and nothing else. If u use much chakra, you kill him quickly thus regening chakra quicker than it would to kill him slowly and then regen.
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Post  NiggerJim Sat May 07, 2011 12:18 am

I like number 2 and number 3
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Post  Fuck Yea Sat May 07, 2011 12:22 am

my brain hurts..... it cant comprehend all this intel...
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Post  orafaelo Sat May 07, 2011 2:02 am

@1 probably there will also be chakra regeneration?...

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Post  itai Sat May 07, 2011 2:14 am

orafaelo wrote:@1 probably there will also be chakra regeneration?...

well that's obvious lol
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Post  Teashi Sat May 07, 2011 3:51 am

Eddiemeister wrote:I like the puppet thingy, didin't bother to read the 2nd thing.

But in Naruto, it's not as if you're thinking "Okay, now I gotta do a weaker jutsu to save chakra". You just focus on killing him and nothing else. If u use much chakra, you kill him quickly thus regening chakra quicker than it would to kill him slowly and then regen.

Actually, it is as if they're thinking that. It depends on how strong the enemy is. If the enemy is really weak, they'd want to save chakra just in case a strong enemy actually pops up. Its not like chakra recovers really fast. If you're on a time limit, I suppose you wouldn't think about saving chakra as much though.

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Chakra Limiter: In this case, I think you should just choose to use weaker jutsu. Having to pick it out the strength of a specific before hand would mean time to do so, which is bad in the case of a surprise attack.

Chakra Element Mastery: I'm not sure what you mean by abusing them, but I agree that only one should be worked on at a time. I think it would have to be a slow process as well, to avoid all the Chuunin out there getting all the elements so early. That or it should be restricted training to Jounin and higher.

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Post  NiggerJim Sat May 07, 2011 2:42 pm

But the thing about a points system for elenents is its not based on how much you use that element which it kinda stupid.
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Post  itai Sat May 07, 2011 4:50 pm

Teashi wrote:
Eddiemeister wrote:I like the puppet thingy, didin't bother to read the 2nd thing.

But in Naruto, it's not as if you're thinking "Okay, now I gotta do a weaker jutsu to save chakra". You just focus on killing him and nothing else. If u use much chakra, you kill him quickly thus regening chakra quicker than it would to kill him slowly and then regen.

Actually, it is as if they're thinking that. It depends on how strong the enemy is. If the enemy is really weak, they'd want to save chakra just in case a strong enemy actually pops up. Its not like chakra recovers really fast. If you're on a time limit, I suppose you wouldn't think about saving chakra as much though.

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Chakra Limiter: In this case, I think you should just choose to use weaker jutsu. Having to pick it out the strength of a specific before hand would mean time to do so, which is bad in the case of a surprise attack.

Chakra Element Mastery: I'm not sure what you mean by abusing them, but I agree that only one should be worked on at a time. I think it would have to be a slow process as well, to avoid all the Chuunin out there getting all the elements so early. That or it should be restricted training to Jounin and higher.

the chakra limiter will be like a poll on the screen which will start from a minimum amount of chakra untill your maximum capacity and you can drag it untill you get to the amount you want. I don't think it will take more than a second to do so but if you guys don't like it was just a suggestion Smile

what I meant by abusing a certain element is - you guys were arguing about how to make it possible for people not to choose only a certain element in character creation and you even said that even if it'll be random people could reset and start again untill they'll get the element they like. well if you let them have it all they won't just use fire for example they'll use all of the elements and it's kinda goes like the show. I mean you have people from the hidden cloud village using lightning as well as water techniques people from konoha using fire wind lightning earth and water which coming to think of it makes konoha OP XD.


But the thing about a points system for elenents is its not based on how much you use that element which it kinda stupid.

well unless you want to have 80% of the player picking fire and lightning jutsus that's the best option I could think of Smile
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Post  NiggerJim Sat May 07, 2011 5:25 pm

lol itai I can imagine people picking all of the elements equally apart from water which seems kinda boring to me
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Post  itai Sat May 07, 2011 5:58 pm

Joninga wrote:lol itai I can imagine people picking all of the elements equally apart from water which seems kinda boring to me

well acording to this thread click Smile a lot of people will have to disagree with you
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Post  NiggerJim Sat May 07, 2011 10:31 pm

Huh I don't understand.
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Post  itai Sat May 07, 2011 11:14 pm

Joninga wrote:Huh I don't understand.
did you read the thread about the elements? i added a link in my last post "click"
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Post  NiggerJim Sat May 07, 2011 11:31 pm

itai wrote:
Joninga wrote:Huh I don't understand.
did you read the thread about the elements? i added a link in my last post "click"
yeah I did and it didn't say about which elements people where going to pick Sad
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Post  itai Sat May 07, 2011 11:40 pm

Joninga wrote:
itai wrote:
Joninga wrote:Huh I don't understand.
did you read the thread about the elements? i added a link in my last post "click"
yeah I did and it didn't say about which elements people where going to pick Sad

read the comments Smile
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Post  itai Sat May 07, 2011 11:40 pm

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itai wrote:
Joninga wrote:Huh I don't understand.
did you read the thread about the elements? i added a link in my last post "click"
yeah I did and it didn't say about which elements people where going to pick Sad

read the comments Smile
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Post  NiggerJim Sat May 07, 2011 11:52 pm

itai wrote:
Joninga wrote:
itai wrote:
Joninga wrote:Huh I don't understand.
did you read the thread about the elements? i added a link in my last post "click"
yeah I did and it didn't say about which elements people where going to pick Sad

read the comments Smile
I did . The comments were mainly about elements being random or not .
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Post  Teashi Sun May 08, 2011 1:26 am

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Eddiemeister wrote:I like the puppet thingy, didin't bother to read the 2nd thing.

But in Naruto, it's not as if you're thinking "Okay, now I gotta do a weaker jutsu to save chakra". You just focus on killing him and nothing else. If u use much chakra, you kill him quickly thus regening chakra quicker than it would to kill him slowly and then regen.

Actually, it is as if they're thinking that. It depends on how strong the enemy is. If the enemy is really weak, they'd want to save chakra just in case a strong enemy actually pops up. Its not like chakra recovers really fast. If you're on a time limit, I suppose you wouldn't think about saving chakra as much though.

@Itai:
Chakra Limiter: In this case, I think you should just choose to use weaker jutsu. Having to pick it out the strength of a specific before hand would mean time to do so, which is bad in the case of a surprise attack.

Chakra Element Mastery: I'm not sure what you mean by abusing them, but I agree that only one should be worked on at a time. I think it would have to be a slow process as well, to avoid all the Chuunin out there getting all the elements so early. That or it should be restricted training to Jounin and higher.

the chakra limiter will be like a poll on the screen which will start from a minimum amount of chakra untill your maximum capacity and you can drag it untill you get to the amount you want. I don't think it will take more than a second to do so but if you guys don't like it was just a suggestion Smile

what I meant by abusing a certain element is - you guys were arguing about how to make it possible for people not to choose only a certain element in character creation and you even said that even if it'll be random people could reset and start again untill they'll get the element they like. well if you let them have it all they won't just use fire for example they'll use all of the elements and it's kinda goes like the show. I mean you have people from the hidden cloud village using lightning as well as water techniques people from konoha using fire wind lightning earth and water which coming to think of it makes konoha OP XD.

Nonono. For the elements I was agreeing with you, I was just stating that it shouldn't be an easy process. If it was an easy process THEN it would abusing the elements. You'd have Genin with four-five elements running around - which shouldn't happen. Not gonna lie though, the chakra limiter just seems kind of silly: I don't think it possible for a shinobi to lessen the amount of chakra they can use in in a technique, unless it was created that way. Imo anyways, or they wouldn't done something like that several times.

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Post  itai Sun May 08, 2011 3:38 am

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Teashi wrote:
Eddiemeister wrote:I like the puppet thingy, didin't bother to read the 2nd thing.

But in Naruto, it's not as if you're thinking "Okay, now I gotta do a weaker jutsu to save chakra". You just focus on killing him and nothing else. If u use much chakra, you kill him quickly thus regening chakra quicker than it would to kill him slowly and then regen.

Actually, it is as if they're thinking that. It depends on how strong the enemy is. If the enemy is really weak, they'd want to save chakra just in case a strong enemy actually pops up. Its not like chakra recovers really fast. If you're on a time limit, I suppose you wouldn't think about saving chakra as much though.

@Itai:
Chakra Limiter: In this case, I think you should just choose to use weaker jutsu. Having to pick it out the strength of a specific before hand would mean time to do so, which is bad in the case of a surprise attack.

Chakra Element Mastery: I'm not sure what you mean by abusing them, but I agree that only one should be worked on at a time. I think it would have to be a slow process as well, to avoid all the Chuunin out there getting all the elements so early. That or it should be restricted training to Jounin and higher.

the chakra limiter will be like a poll on the screen which will start from a minimum amount of chakra untill your maximum capacity and you can drag it untill you get to the amount you want. I don't think it will take more than a second to do so but if you guys don't like it was just a suggestion Smile

what I meant by abusing a certain element is - you guys were arguing about how to make it possible for people not to choose only a certain element in character creation and you even said that even if it'll be random people could reset and start again untill they'll get the element they like. well if you let them have it all they won't just use fire for example they'll use all of the elements and it's kinda goes like the show. I mean you have people from the hidden cloud village using lightning as well as water techniques people from konoha using fire wind lightning earth and water which coming to think of it makes konoha OP XD.

Nonono. For the elements I was agreeing with you, I was just stating that it shouldn't be an easy process. If it was an easy process THEN it would abusing the elements. You'd have Genin with four-five elements running around - which shouldn't happen. Not gonna lie though, the chakra limiter just seems kind of silly: I don't think it possible for a shinobi to lessen the amount of chakra they can use in in a technique, unless it was created that way. Imo anyways, or they wouldn't done something like that several times.

actually if you look at Nagto's deva path you can see that his jutsu shinra tensei is a jutsu that his power relays on the ammount of chakra you invest in it
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Post  Eddiemeister Sun May 08, 2011 4:15 am

True Itai, but give us 5 more examples.
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Post  itai Sun May 08, 2011 4:22 am

Eddiemeister wrote:True Itai, but give us 5 more examples.

Rasengan - if you put enough chakra to it it become Oodama rasengan
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Summoning Techniques - like if you put enough chakra you summon gamabunta if you don't you summon other toads
Kage bunshin
shinra tensei
Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique

there are probably a lot more which don't come to mind at this moment but a lot of jutsus are the same with odditional chakra within them which makes them stronger


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Post  Teashi Sun May 08, 2011 4:23 am

Eddiemeister wrote:True Itai, but give us 5 more examples.

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I said myself that some jutsu have that ability, but probably because they were created to have that ability. Shinra Tensei is more like a kekkei genkai imo anways.

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Post  Teashi Sun May 08, 2011 4:24 am

itai wrote:
Eddiemeister wrote:True Itai, but give us 5 more examples.

Rasengan - if you put enough chakra to it it become Oodama rasengan
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Summoning Techniques - like if you put enough chakra you summon gamabunta if you don't you summon other toads
Kage bunshin
shinra tensei

there are probably a lot more which don't come to mind at this moment but a lot of jutsus are the same with odditional chakra within them which makes them stronger

Thats four other examples. You said Shinra Tensei already. Summoning is its own jutsu. Great Fireball technique is a whole other jutsu, same with Oodama Rasengan.

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Post  Toppcom Sun May 08, 2011 4:26 am

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Eddiemeister wrote:True Itai, but give us 5 more examples.

Rasengan - if you put enough chakra to it it become Oodama rasengan

E-DUH Oodama rasengan is only special beacuse he has a shadowclone help him "carry" it. He doesn't take away tha clone untill after the attack. that is the Oodama rasengan.
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Post  itai Sun May 08, 2011 4:27 am

Teashi wrote:
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Eddiemeister wrote:True Itai, but give us 5 more examples.

Rasengan - if you put enough chakra to it it become Oodama rasengan
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Summoning Techniques - like if you put enough chakra you summon gamabunta if you don't you summon other toads
Kage bunshin
shinra tensei

there are probably a lot more which don't come to mind at this moment but a lot of jutsus are the same with odditional chakra within them which makes them stronger

Thats four other examples. You said Shinra Tensei already. Summoning is its own jutsu. Great Fireball technique is a whole other jutsu, same with Oodama Rasengan.

I gave you 7 examples lol and what do you mean by whole other jutsu? it's a jutsu just like other jutsus
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