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Genjutsu
From your last video i understand you still haven worked on jutsus so i think this suggestion comes in the right time anyway its about genjutsu,The idea is that when someone activates a genjutsu of a higher rank the user and the target see a short animation like this one.
Because it would be somehow stupid for a hard to learn high rank genjutsu to just inflict some dmg without any special effects.In the time the animation is playing the user and the targer are invincible
Because it would be somehow stupid for a hard to learn high rank genjutsu to just inflict some dmg without any special effects.In the time the animation is playing the user and the targer are invincible
bitspirit- Jounin
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Join date : 2010-08-19
Re: Genjutsu
it actually looks so awsome and epic wow i wish it will be ingame if so i will go genjutsu lol
mompos- Chuunin
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Join date : 2010-08-20
Age : 30
Location : egypt
Re: Genjutsu
Good idea, but...
Let's say it causes damage. Just cause there are flashy and cool effects doesn't change the fact that the actual concequence is dry. I suggest having some kind of debuff called "Shock" or something, that causes your character to.. : bleed/move slower/jump lower/randomly run in different directions/messing up handseals or taking longer time to perfrom them/drop your weapon (not permanently but just for the time being) etc, all depending on which genjutsu you've performed. This way, Genjutsu users wouldn't just be damaging but very much contributing to a steady and strategic team play. Oh and, no such effects as "Blinding for 15 seconds" or "Casuing inability to move for 5 seconds" cause that isn't skill or strategic, just sheer OP. We should be very exact about this point.
"Bind his ass and we all go full jutsu on him! Goddamn, we're so good!"
Let's say it causes damage. Just cause there are flashy and cool effects doesn't change the fact that the actual concequence is dry. I suggest having some kind of debuff called "Shock" or something, that causes your character to.. : bleed/move slower/jump lower/randomly run in different directions/messing up handseals or taking longer time to perfrom them/drop your weapon (not permanently but just for the time being) etc, all depending on which genjutsu you've performed. This way, Genjutsu users wouldn't just be damaging but very much contributing to a steady and strategic team play. Oh and, no such effects as "Blinding for 15 seconds" or "Casuing inability to move for 5 seconds" cause that isn't skill or strategic, just sheer OP. We should be very exact about this point.
"Bind his ass and we all go full jutsu on him! Goddamn, we're so good!"
Eddiemeister- Jounin
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Re: Genjutsu
Genjutsu is a very tricky issue, because it is something that is never explained in the show. The only thing we know is that if someone senses they are in a genjutsu they can use an anti gejutsu "break" (sakura uses it a lot in the episodes) and they will be free from it. Yet some genjutsu like itachis or possibly the one in the video (didn watch cause i dont want to spoil anything in the show =D) seem like they cannot broken out of and in the events where someone is in a genjutsu they in reality just stand in one spot waiting to die which from a game perspective seems very unfair cause it would almost ensure death if for more than two or three seconds.
Genjutsu doesnt seem like something that can be balanced unless it doesnt really act like the show.
The best way to balance it would be to treat genjutsu as things like minor stuns, sleeps (these should be high level and is broken upon taking damage), slows, and other debuffs/status ailments. But they do not have to be boring in visuals. Possibly during the stun/sleep or during the slow movement speed they can also have a visual twist. Things such as they see that all players around them dissapear/change models/ seem like they switch with other players characters and their nations/teams get swapped and all mixed up. More ideas cold be that the player cannot see the enemies lifebar anymore or maybe it shows that he has full life to trick you/Possibly the genjutsu could alter the players own lifebar fooling him that his is near death causing him to retreat or play defensively. Idk how indepth these things can be done using client/server stuff but I could go on forever about genjutsu ideas. But they can never be too powerful and every char should have a %(chance) to break out of them.
Sorry for wall of text xD
In short i think genjutsu should be a combonation of debuf/visual trickery or just somevisual change
Genjutsu doesnt seem like something that can be balanced unless it doesnt really act like the show.
The best way to balance it would be to treat genjutsu as things like minor stuns, sleeps (these should be high level and is broken upon taking damage), slows, and other debuffs/status ailments. But they do not have to be boring in visuals. Possibly during the stun/sleep or during the slow movement speed they can also have a visual twist. Things such as they see that all players around them dissapear/change models/ seem like they switch with other players characters and their nations/teams get swapped and all mixed up. More ideas cold be that the player cannot see the enemies lifebar anymore or maybe it shows that he has full life to trick you/Possibly the genjutsu could alter the players own lifebar fooling him that his is near death causing him to retreat or play defensively. Idk how indepth these things can be done using client/server stuff but I could go on forever about genjutsu ideas. But they can never be too powerful and every char should have a %(chance) to break out of them.
Sorry for wall of text xD
In short i think genjutsu should be a combonation of debuf/visual trickery or just somevisual change
jmanelson- Academy Student
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Re: Genjutsu
I like it, random guy. But no stuns, they suck . And I think that the genjutsu users should have extra big/noticable hanseals so they are noticeable. IF you see it coming, you can run and decrease the effet (50% slow becomes 25% cus it hit far away from you, or something). Example : Someone targets me with a slow genjutsu, it slows for 50% if I stay in the spot that the user targetted, or if I'm near it. Should take bout 2 seconds to cast. And if I see it coming, I can jump and decrease the effect. But the effect should only hit the target closest to the targetted point. Maybe some AOE (area of effect) genjutsus should exist, but not all of them.
So ye, visual twists and debuffs. But as the visual twists come, you don't freeze or something, but you stay in real-time but with annoying shit popping up on the screen and debuffs decreasing your gameplay perfromance. Woulda been fair.
So ye, visual twists and debuffs. But as the visual twists come, you don't freeze or something, but you stay in real-time but with annoying shit popping up on the screen and debuffs decreasing your gameplay perfromance. Woulda been fair.
Eddiemeister- Jounin
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Re: Genjutsu
remember tayuya´s, shikamaru had to break his finger, once you are in a 2dangerous genjutsu" you cant get out, but if someone casts feather illusion jutsu you have to disperce it before it reaches you, like at orochimaru´s attack to the village in the chunin exams
DaniEsteiro- Anbu
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Re: Genjutsu
DaniEsteiro wrote:remember tayuya´s, shikamaru had to break his finger, once you are in a 2dangerous genjutsu" you cant get out, but if someone casts feather illusion jutsu you have to disperce it before it reaches you, like at orochimaru´s attack to the village in the chunin exams
Remember this is a game you cant expect everything to be like the anime
bitspirit- Jounin
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Re: Genjutsu
ok i had a idea. how about to use Genjutse u have to first put the target under the GenJutsu and when they are you can do the Genjutsu user can use more skills and such. just so you know i havnt throught threw this at all so if it dosnt make sence to you or u think it is just a realy bad idea i will understand
Mr.Rain- Academy Student
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